Tax Chats
Taxes touch every aspect of society, including who rules, where factories are built, what people drink, what car they buy, when they have children, and when they die. Scott Dyreng (Duke) and Jeff Hoopes (UNC), two accounting professors, chat about taxes, including current events, with the energy of an over-caffeinated chihuahua. Listening is guaranteed to be far more entertaining than actually paying your taxes.
Episodes
162 episodes
Which is the worst Tax Expenditure?: A Chat with Adam Michel
Jeff and Scott chat with Adam Michel of the Cato Institute about tax expenditures. Adam currently has on his X account the Tax Expenditure Madness brackets (also on his substack: https://adamnmichel.subst...
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Episode 149
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39:53
Race and Taxes: A Chat with Bill Gale
Jeff and Scott chat with Bill Gale of the Tax Policy Center about his new paper (with Oliver Hall and John Sabelhaus), "The Same But Different: How the Income Tax Affects Black, Hispanic, and White Households." We discuss how the...
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Season 1
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Episode 148
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28:37
Tax Enforcement in Developing Countries: A Chat with Oyebola Okunogbe
Jeff and Scott chat with Oyebola Okunogbe, an economist at the World Bank. They discuss tax enforcement in the developing world, including the challenges developing world countries face that more developed countries do not face, and, how those ...
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Episode 147
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34:25
Advising the President's Advisor: Elena Patel on working at the CEA
Jeff and Scott talk about Elena Patel , an economics professor at the University of Utah, about her time working at the Council of Economic Advisors. Elena worked as a tax economist advising the chair of the CEA, who is an economic advisor to t...
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Season 1
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Episode 146
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35:25
A Chat with Rita de la Feria on Tax Fairness
Jeff and Scott chat with Rita de la Feria on tax fairness. Fairness is in the eye of the beholder, and tax fairness, in particular, appears to be particularly sensitive to whose eye is beholding.
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Season 1
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Episode 145
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45:42
Re-release: Martin Luther King Jr.'s Tax Perjury Trial: A conversation with Edgar Dyer
This episode originally aired on January 15, 2022. We are releasing it for Martin Luther King day, January 20, 2025. If you already heard it and don't wish to hear it again, skip it!Martin Luther King Jr. is the only person to have eve...
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Season 1
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Episode 144
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33:38
Low Property taxes in California: Chatting about Prop 13 with Dan Walters
Jeff and Scott chat with Dan Walter's, an Opinion Columnist for CalMatters. They chat about Prop 13, a law that dramatically limits property tax increases in California, and was passed in 1978. Dan has been writing about California since 1975, ...
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Season 1
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Episode 143
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34:15
Democrats Lowering the Income Tax in Hawaii! A Chat with Seth Colby
Jeff and Scott chat with Seth Colby, a Tax Research and Planning Officer for the State of Hawaii. They discussed a recent policy change in Hawaii, where Hawaii dramatically reduced income tax rates, while increasing sales taxes, in an effort to...
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Season 1
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Episode 143
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30:34
The Regulation of Paid Tax Preparers: A Conversation with John Treu
Jeff and Scott chat with West Virginia University accounting professor, and lawyer, John Treu, about the regulation of paid tax preparers, including John's empirical evidence that they improve return quality and the Loving case.
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Season 1
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Episode 142
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36:42
Re-release: Are Craisins Candy? Must have tax information before Thanksgiving
Scott and Jeff discuss what constitutes candy, for sales tax purposes, in North Carolina. The discussion ends with the verdict on craisins--are they candy? Scott is quizzed on other types of food and whether they are candy, and, scores a perfec...
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Episode 141
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24:11
Tax Notes: A Chat with Tax Analysts CEO Cara Griffith
Jeff and Scott chat with Cara Griffith, CEO of Tax Analysts about Tax Notes, the main product of Tax Analysts. Tax Notes is a tax practitioner publication catering to tax professionals, and Jeff and Scott talk about who reads Tax Notes, how con...
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Episode 140
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27:02
Electric Car Subsidies in the IRA: A Chat with Felix Tintelnot
Jeff and Scott chat with Felix Tintelnot about electric cars, and the subsidies they were given before the IRA, and in the IRA. We learn that because electric cars are heavier and therefore more likely to crush you to death if they crash into y...
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Season 1
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Episode 139
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34:25
Certifying Fairness? A Chat with Fair Tax Foundation's CEO Paul Monaghan
Jeff and Scott chat with Paul Monaghan, the CEO of the Fair Tax Foundation. The Fair Tax Foundation certifies companies for paying a "good" amount of tax, focusing on the spirit of the law rather than the ...
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Season 1
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Episode 138
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39:37
Cement and Carbon Taxes: A Chat with Marcel Olbert and Daniel Klein
Jeff and Scott chat with Marcel Olbert, assistant professor of accounting at London Business School, and Daniel Klein, assistant to the CFO at Heidelberg Materials. They discuss carbon taxes, and a new paper Marcel has on carbon leakage. They a...
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Season 1
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Episode 137
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42:42
Deadly Tax Protests in Kenya: A chat with Nana Ama Sarfo
Jeff and Scott chat with Nana Ama Sarfo, a contributing editor with Tax Notes, with a special interest in covering taxes in the developing world. They chat about the recent deadly tax protests in Kenya, where a tax increase on basic life staple...
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Season 1
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Episode 136
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28:13
Taxing Traffic? A Chat About Congestion Pricing with Matthew Tarduno
Jeff and Scott chat with economist and professor Matthew Tarduno about the problems that automobile traffic causes, and different ways that have been devised to solve the problem (including tax-adjacent ways!). Get CPE for listenin...
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Season 1
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Episode 135
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40:03
Utah State Tax Policy: A Chat with Senator Daniel McCay
Jeff and Scott chat with Senator Daniel McCay, chairman of the Utah Senate Revenue and Taxation Committee, about how he thinks about tax policy, what the objectives of tax policy are, and how he thinks Utah is doing tax-wise.Get CPE for...
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Season 1
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Episode 134
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40:26
The Power to Destroy: A Chat with Michael Graetz about his new book
Jeff and Scott chat with Michael Graetz, Professor Emeritus of Law at Yale, about his new book, The Power to Destroy: How the Antitax Movement Hijacked America. We talk about the start of the anti-tax movement with the opposition to property ta...
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Season 1
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Episode 133
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44:45
Overturning Chevron: A Chat about the Loper Bright decision with Andy Grewal
Jeff and Scott talk with Iowa law professor Andy Grewal about the recent Supreme Court case, Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo, which effectively eliminates Chevron deference. They discuss the ramifications for tax and non-tax administ...
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Season 1
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Episode 132
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31:23
Taxocracy: A Chat with Scott Hodge about his new book
Jeff and Scott talk with Scott Hodge (who is revealed to be a more authentic "Scott" than Scott Dyreng), CEO Emeritus to the Tax Foundation. They discuss his new book, "
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Season 1
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Episode 131
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38:43
Moore with Daniel Hemel
In this episode, Jeff and Scott chat once more with Daniel Hemel. In the past we have spoken with Daniel about taxing stock buybacks (episode #79) and Donald Trump's tax returns (episode #80). This time we talk about the carefully watched supre...
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Season 1
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Episode 130
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30:35
Thoreau Disobeys: A Chat about Thoreau and Taxes with Laura Dassow Walls
Henry David Thoreau famously refused to pay his poll tax and went to jail (very briefly) as a result. Jeff and Scott chat with Laura Dassow Walls, emerita English professor at Notre Dame and author of Henry David Thoreau: A Life,...
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Season 1
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Episode 129
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35:14
All You Could Ever Want to Know about the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) with Jacob Bastian
Jeff and Scott chat with Jacob Bastian, assistant professor of Economics at Rutgers, about the earned income tax credit (EITC). Get CPE for listening to Tax Chats! Free CPE courses are available approximately one week after episode...
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Season 1
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Episode 128
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43:37
Taxes and Online Sports Betting: A Chat with Nathan Goldman
Jeff and Scott talk to Nathan Goldman, accounting professor at North Carolina State University (completing the tax triangle between UNC, Duke, and NC State!)., about taxes and online sports betting. Sports betting was recently legalized i...
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Season 1
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Episode 127
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33:09